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Dear Tesco #NOTW

Hello Tesco,

I hope you are well?

I am a regular Tesco customer, using your stores for my weekly shop, your filling stations for my fuel and your credit card for several 10s of £1000s of purchases each year. So now we have ascertained my commitment to being a brand slave with you :) and knowing that you are probably getting loads of E-mails like this, I’ll cut to the chase.

Could tell me what you are doing about advertising in the News Of The World newspaper? I am, along with a huge number of right thinking people, very distressed with the allegations about the NOTW and phone hacking. I am fully aware of allegations being just that and the fine tradition of being innocent until proven guilty etc is really commendable, but the NOTW do have a track record in this area, no smoke without fire eh?

I’m sure that you think what the NOTW is alleged to have done is totally reprehensible but maybe you are a bit scared to come out and say it? Don’t be afraid, other companies have pulled out and seem to be doing ok out of it. Sainsbury & The Co-operative to name just two. Do you really want them to take the moral high ground? Really?

I think it would be really aces if you pulled your advertising from the NOTW immediately and I think it would be double aces if you made a stand and refused to stock copies of the paper (I do use the term paper loosely) in the future.

Cheers

Mike

PS I’m not writing to ASDA about this as I don’t like them as much as you ;) x

Posted from Stoke-on-Trent, England, United Kingdom.

Response From VoiceHost

Further to my post Tesco Internet Phone Still A Problem on Saturday where I said it looked like VoiceHost may have a solution to the Tesco Internet Phone debacle, it seems that Freshtel have pulled out of a possible deal with VoiceHost and turned off the very dim light at the end of the tunnel for Tesco VoIP customers.

I received this E-mail from Voice Host this morning.

Hi Mike,

Just incase you didnt recieve the e-mail we sent out on Thursday, I have pasted it below.

Regards,

Adam

We have just received dreadful news from Ofcom.

Despite Freshtel telling Ofcom and us that they were returning the numbers at midnight on Friday they have “changed their minds”.

They apparently have sold the company along with the numbers to a provider that will want to use these numbers for providing VoIP services.

The transfer of the numbers is not automatic and whoever it is will have to go through the paperwork exercise with Ofcom to have the numbers allocated to them.

Your old numbers will not be available until that process has been satisfactorily completed.

This means that we will now NOT be able to offer you those numbers on the VoiceHost network.

As you can imagine we as a company are disgusted by this tactic. We were negotiating to buy the Freshtel business lock stock and barrel last week for the full amount Freshtel were asking. They pulled that deal on the day of the formal agreement meeting based on there now no longer being a business to purchase due to liquidation of assets for capital raise of their Australian parent company.

BT along with O-Bit Telecom, Cable and Wireless and Virgin Media group, plus ourselves and Ofcom, had pulled out all the stops to be able to provide a transition of those numbers for you for Midnight this Friday. To have this work scuppered in this way we feel is unethical and immoral.

Those of you that want to pursue your geographical numbers with whoever will end up with them now will have to wait to see if there is some sort of announcement from Freshtel as to where those numbers will eventually live.

We will of course refund any money to folk who added credit to their accounts in good faith and anticipation of the scheduled transfer this Friday and who do not wish to use our service and wish to pursue a service with whatever company eventually appears with the allocation whenever that might be.

We would like to stress that throughout this whole process we have strived to act diligently with integrity and openness to make sure you were all kept informed and up to date as we put the solution together for you.

If you have any questions around this please feel free to send us an email or to give us a call.

Deepest apologies.

VoiceHost

Tesco Internet Phone Still A Problem

The Tesco Internet phone problem has still not been resolved. The service ‘stopped’ on 27 April. Although helpfully now people can still ring my number and leave a message that I can’t retrieve. I can’t stop them from leaving a message as I can no longer log in to the Tesco service to make any changes like turning my voicemail off. This situation is even worse than the number being dead.

Looking around on the web it seems that the whole situation is being / was badly managed by Tesco. I have seen reports of people ringing the Tesco Internet Phone / Freshtel customer service line only to be told that the person answering the call ‘has no idea what I am talking about and has not heard of the company’.

There does look to be a faint glimmer of hope in the distance though, it seems that Voice Host ‘may’ be doing something with the Tesco numbers, their website has a big banner in the corner saying Tesco Internet Phone customers to click and you can E-mail them at tesco@voicehost.co.uk I have dropped them an E-mail and will update here as and when I get a response.

I’m of the opinion that Tesco should answer questions and make an offer of some kind of compensation for the way they have dealt with this.

Shafted By Tesco The Saga Continues

So continuing on from my post yesterday about the Tesco Internet phone fiasco.

I did a bit of digging around and sent one final mail to Tesco last night.

Hi
further to my previous mail, on looking on the OFCOM site and this page

you will see the final point

The provider must inform you about your ability to keep your number if you choose to switch providers at a later date.

Please inform me how I keep my number as I now choose to switch to another provider

Kind regards

Mike

This afternoon I received the following part canned response from Freshtel

Dear Mike,

Thank you for your recent e-mail.

You have recently contacted Tesco Internet Phone to enquire about taking your Tesco Internet Phone number to another provider.

We have been investigating alternative arrangements with a number of parties including the communications regulator, Ofcom, to try and make this possible.

Despite our efforts and after exploring a range of options unfortunately we have not found a workable solution for Tesco internet phone customers to take their internet phone number to another service provider.

Tesco is not exempt from Ofcom’s rules. However, due to the closure of our partner Freshtel’s UK business, number portability is not technically feasible.

This is because the UK number porting system is based on forward routing of calls. As Freshtel will be closing its business, a forward routing porting solution will not be possible.

We can understand this will be disappointing, we are sorry for any inconvenience caused.

From 27th April your Tesco internet phone account will be closed and the service will not be available. You will no longer be able to access your online account or be able to make calls using your Tesco internet phone.

Thank you for contacting us, please let me know if you have any further queries, alternatively call our customer care team on 0845 300 2020* – free from your Tesco internet phone or visit our website http://www.tescointernetphone.com

Kind Regards,

Michael A
Tesco Internet Phone

So it really does seem as if we have no recourse as Tesco / Freshtel are closing the UK operation and therefore can’t allow a number to be ported to another provider.

I’m not sure I can be bothered sending any further E-mails to them as most of the points seem to get ignored, but I will point Tesco Customer Services and Sir Terry Leahy to my posts.

Shafted By Tesco

I have, for the next 4 or 5 days, a Tesco internet phone account. As some of you may know Tesco made what appears to be a snap decision last month to close their internet telephony services. When I say snap dcision I mean like on 25 March I got the following E-mail.

Dear Michael

We are writing to let you know that from 27th April 2010, we will no
longer be providing Tesco internet phone and Talk Wi-fi services. This
is due to a number of factors that impact the service we provide to
you, so we have decided to discontinue this offering.

From this date your Tesco internet phone account will be closed and
the service will not be available. You will no longer be able to
access your online account or be able to make calls using your Tesco
internet phone.

This does not affect any other services provided by Tesco Telecoms.

We apologise for any inconvenience and will be happy to assist you
with any enquiries you may have.

The Tesco internet phone team

This was the first I had heard, I had not seen anything to give me any idea they were going to be closing the service. In fact they were selling the hardware a few days before I got this mail because I debated on getting a new handset from my local store. Anyway I mailed them back straight away, well the day after if we are going to be pedantic.

26 March 2010
Hello,

I have just received an E-mail from you explaining that you are discontinuing the internet phone service from 27 April 2010.

Can you let me know how I can transfer my internet phone number to another provider as you seem to have missed this information out of the E-mail. It is imperative that I keep this number as I have publicised it and have had a large number of cards printed with this number on.

Two days later I get the following E-mail from tescointernetphone[@]tesco.net

28 March 2010
Dear Michael Rawlins,

Thank you for your recent e-mail regarding Tesco Internet Phone.

It was with regret that we had to send an email to say that our Internet Phone service will cease from 27th April, without offering you a full explanation or providing alternative arrangements to allow you to switch to another service provider. Please be assured that we will be in contact shortly with more information.

I can understand why you are so disappointed and would like to offer my unreserved apologies.

Thank you for contacting us, if you require any further assistance please call us on 0845 300 2020 *free from your Tesco Internet Phone* (Mon-Sat 9am-9pm & Sun 10am-4pm)

Kind Regards,

Michael A
Tesco Internet Phone Team

So they would be in contact with me shortly. No doubt that is why I had to E-mail them back 3 weeks later asking:

20 April 2010
Hi,

Is there any update on how I migrate this number to another provider? I am concerned as your service is closing in seven days without providing a solution. I had 2000 business cards printed in March with this number on so I’m sure you will understand I would quite like to keep it?

If you could provide me with an urgent update I would be most grateful.

Kind regards

Mike

Today I get this response from cerb4[@]freshtel.net

21 April 2010
Dear Mike,

Thank you for your recent e-mail.

You have recently contacted Tesco Internet Phone to enquire about taking your Tesco Internet Phone number to another provider.

We have been investigating alternative arrangements with a number of parties including the communications regulator, Ofcom, to try and make this possible.

Despite our efforts and after exploring a range of options unfortunately we have not found a workable solution for Tesco internet phone customers to take their internet phone number to another service provider.

We can understand this will be disappointing, we are sorry for any inconvenience caused.

From 27th April your Tesco internet phone account will be closed and the service will not be available. You will no longer be able to access your online account or be able to make calls using your Tesco internet phone.

Thank you for contacting us, please let me know if you have any further queries, alternatively call our customer care team on 0845 300 2020* – free from your Tesco internet phone or visit our website http://www.tescointernetphone.com

Kind Regards,

Michael A
Tesco Internet Phone

So it appears that the service and my phone number and 2000 business cards are all going down the drain in 5 days.

I had a look at freshtel.net and it seems they are an Australian outfit who started providing VoIP services to Tesco on 2008. Now if that is the case then they must have transferred numbers in to the Freshtel network, so why can’t they allow me to transfer my number out to another provider such as Skype?

Updated.
I have continued to have E-mail dialogue with my new best friend Michael, I have to point out I really don’t hold him personally responsible, the situation sucks and at least he is taking the time to respond ;)

So I responded to his last E-mail thus:

Well that is very disappointing.

If you can give me details of how I can claim the cost of my now useless business cards I would be most grateful.

Kind regards

Mike

and he responded with

Dear Mike,

Thank you for your recent e-mail regarding Tesco Internet Phone.

I can understand why you are so disappointed and would like to offer my unreserved apologies.

Unfortunately however, as this service was not intended for business use (as outlined in section 8.4 of our Service Terms and Conditions, listed below) we cannot make specific exceptions for people who have used this service for business use and would not make any offer of compensation as a result of a breach of terms & conditions

*The Tesco Internet Phone service is a retail service that is made available to you only for personal, residential use and not for commercial or business purposes. All commercial or business use is considered by us to be not in accordance with fair use. You may not, nor allow anyone else to, install the Tesco Internet Phone software or use the Tesco Internet Phone service for auto delivery, continuing or extensive call forwarding, telemarketing, solicitation, polling, fax or voicemail broadcasting. If you do use the Tesco Internet Phone service for business or commercial purposes in breach of these Terms & Conditions, you will compensate us for all liabilities, claims, damages, losses and costs (including legal costs) which we may suffer because someone (other than you) makes or threatens a claim against us because the Tesco Internet Phone service is faulty or cannot be used by them.*

Thank you for contacting us, if you require any further assistance please call us on 0845 300 2020 *free from your Tesco Internet Phone* (Mon-Sat 9am-9pm & Sun 10am-4pm)

Kind Regards,

Michael A
Tesco Internet Phone Team

So I responded with:

Hi,

Thanks for your response.

Business cards does not imply ‘Business Use’ merely that I have invested in 2000 cards with my contact details on which are now surplus to requirements because you (not you personally) have decided to close the service with what I assume is the minimum of notice (para 4.2)

Kind regards

Mike

To which he responded:

Dear Mike,

Thank you for your most recent reply.

As you have made a personal decision to produce 2000 Business cards with the telephone number printed on them. This decision has been made by yourself after agreeing to our terms & conditions, aceepting that the below applies:

4.2
We may end your Service Agreement at any time by emailing you and giving you 30 days notice. We may also end our Service Agreement with you immediately if: (a) you breach an important term of these Terms & Conditions (for example, you do not comply with paragraph 8.3 and we determine, at our sole discretion, that your use of the Tesco Internet Phone service is, or at any time was, inconsistent with normal residential use patterns), (b) you breach any other term of these Terms & Conditions and do not put it right within 7 days of us asking you to, (c) you fail any credit or fraud prevention check or where we reasonably suspect fraud or money laundering by you or someone using your account(s), (d) you give us information about yourself which we reasonably believe to be false or misleading, (e) you are the subject of bankruptcy or insolvency proceedings, or if you do not make a payment under a judgement of a Court or fine, or you make an arrangement with your creditors or a receiver or administrator is appointed over any of your assets, or you go into liquidation, or (f) we are no longer able to provide the Tesco Internet Phone service to you despite making all reasonable efforts to do so.

After reading these terms & conditions I would hope that you would take the advice that we are not held responsible for any financial loss resulting from any use of Tesco Internet Phone. Please accept my apologies for any inconvenience caused, however the decision not to offer compensation stands as previously advised.

I do apologise for any inconvenience caused as a result of these decisions made and thank you for contacting us, if you require any further assistance please call us on 0845 300 2020 *free from your Tesco Internet Phone* (Mon-Sat 9am-9pm & Sun 10am-4pm)

Kind Regards,

Michael A
Tesco Internet Phone Team

Getting all contractual on me :( My response to this was:

Thanks for your response.

I think it is reasonable in the eyes of ‘The Man on the Clapham omnibus’ that section 4.2 would be seen to apply to an individual rather than your whole customer base, I’m sure you will agree?

I am more than happy with the fact that if I
(a) you breach an important term of these Terms & Conditions (for example, you do not comply with paragraph 8.3 and we determine, at our sole discretion, that your use of the Tesco Internet Phone service is, or at any time was, inconsistent with normal residential use patterns),
(b) you breach any other term of these Terms & Conditions and do not put it right within 7 days of us asking you to,
(c) you fail any credit or fraud prevention check or where we reasonably suspect fraud or money laundering by you or someone using your account(s),
(d) you give us information about yourself which we reasonably believe to be false or misleading,
(e) you are the subject of bankruptcy or insolvency proceedings, or if you do not make a payment under a judgement of a Court or fine, or you make an arrangement with your creditors or a receiver or administrator is appointed over any of your assets, or you go into liquidation

You may terminate the service because that is by my own volition and or actions, where as

(f) we are no longer able to provide the Tesco Internet Phone service to you despite making all reasonable efforts to do so.

is outside of my control is it not?

I am particularly interested in ‘despite making all reasonable efforts to do so’

Please define your reasonable efforts?

As I see it a decision was made, at some point before 26 March when you gave me notice that the service was being terminated, so at what point was that decision made and what ‘reasonable efforts’ were made by Tesco & Freshtel to provide continuity of service to your client base?

If, as I suspect the decision was made at any point before 26 March then it would have been prudent to notify your customer base that Tesco were looking to move away from the VoIP market rather than just giving 30 days notice would it not?

In closing I think that you have not made any reasonable efforts to keep continuity of service to your clients and your failure to do this has now left me out of pocket and I require this to be compensated. This compensation can be either by allowing me to move the number to another supplier or compensating me for the printing.

I must also point out that it is my belief that despite your personal assurance on 28 March “Please be assured that we will be in contact shortly with more information.” , if I had not contacted you yesterday you would have not taken the time to contact me to tell me that there is ‘no workable solution, (which I very much doubt) but merely closed the service.

You may have noticed that I am not going to go away and accept this particularly poor service, I’m sure that you have neither the discretion nor the authority to resolve this issue, so please can you supply me with the contact details of a senior manager within Tesco who I can take this up with.

Kind regards

Mike

I’m not sure where this will end up, but I suspect it will involve me chucking 2000 business cards away and getting a new number from Skype or someone. I don’t expect any more responses tonight as it is past 2100.

Anyone got any suggestions?